MemberJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
What am I missing? And why does lever action have to be so expensive it seems kind of ridiculous but I’m not a gunsmith
BaxterftwGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
12 gauge has plenty of energy for a bear with 1oz slugs
OutHereTrappinGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
Yep, 12 Gauge pump with slugs is your most cost effective option. It’s not sexy, but it will work.
04b7ffGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
A black bear is basically s big raccoon
yeehawpardGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
A black bear??
ammoman3030GuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
Take a Win model 94 and seen how many parts are inside vs say an AR which really is just the bolt and trigger group. All parts need to be machined to a certain tolerance, so simplicity in a gun makes it cheaper, usually.
Lina_InverseGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
Any rifle calibre will be fine for black bear. Doesnt need to be a lever gun in trex caliber or shotgun slugs.
Inuit hunt polar bears with as little .22mag or at best an sks or something because theyre chad. And polar bears hunt people back and are generally more scary.
Shotguns are fine, ARs are fine, a used SKS would be fine. Virtually any long gun thats in an actual rifle cartridge will be fine. Semi auto in case you miss. Highest capacity possible in case you miss or one isnt enough.
Edit: You’re on a budget, so i’d avoid .300 bo because you will have trouble affording ammo. You specifically mention it a few times but “I can only afford a $600 gun” doesn’t currently reconcile itself with “I want something in .300 blackout”. AR or SKS if you want a rifle. You can even eventually swap your upper for an obscure hunting upper if you feel like it later. If you decide you need a moose defense rifle slap a .458 socom upper spend $2/rd and eat your heart out, but .223 will be cheap and fine for black bear in the quantities you can dish it out. It’s not like you’d be attempting to ethically and humanely defend yourself so I’d prefer 4 rounds of .223 even in 55gr fmj much less something with more oomph to a single round out of pmuch any pump gun or lever gun or some other kind of non semi auto action. Semi auto shotgun, sure, go for it, but I’m personally wary of the myriad turkish ar clone semi shotguns that you get for under $600.
Individual_Fox_9690GuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
You need a Glock fowty problem solver.
burntbridges20GuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
Others have said it, but you don’t need a lot for a black bear. In fact, I’d argue against trying to kill it at all. I’ve dealt with them and they scare easy. But I understand wanting the option of lethal defense if it gets to that point. If cheap power is what you need, you cannot beat a mossberg maverick 12 gauge and slap some slugs in it.
ThatmiteGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
If are lucky maybe you can find a used Marlin 336
WilllOfDGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
Buy capsaicin, mix it with a rubbing alcohol, and spray it around your perimeter, no lie, we do this when camping in thick bear country. With one of those pump sprayer things
AlarmedTechnicianGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
Well, if you already have an AR then just get a big bore upper.
It’s out of budget if you don’t have an AR-10 already, but IMO the best option for bear is .45 Raptor.
DaChuggernautGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
Dunno why it hasn’t been suggested but a .357 or .44 magnum wheel gat would do the trick just fine
hilltoparmoryGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
Bear spray is probably better than any gun you’d get, FYI so research it and get yourself a can or two.
AFTER that, 12 ga with slugs is a good backup.
HarryPairatestesGuestJune 14, 2021 at 3:40 am
What’s wrong with a shotgun. That’s literally your best bet. No black bear will stand up to a slug.
Lever actions are not for self defense, the end. I love mine, but there are a bunch of reasons they went out of favor, least of which is the cost to manufacture.