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  • Factual Information on “Mass Shootings”

     ashley308 updated 11 months, 1 week ago 2 Members · 3 Posts
  • ashley308

    June 13, 2021 at 10:23 am

    *Just add together COVID-19 infections with HIV infections, they are both viruses*

    *Just add together random public shootings with drug-deals-turned-gunfights, they both involve guns*

    Both of the above statements are equally ignorant.  The FBI understands that, which is why they, along with other parties, formulated the term “active shooter incident” to describe what most laypersons would describe as a “mass shooting”.  For a flowchart of what qualifies as an “active shooter incident” see this:

    Arguably, “active shooter incident” is more broad than “mass shooting” as there is no numerical death or injury threshold, just 3+ “at risk” from a shooting.  While murders due to gang rivalry or drug dealing or domestic violence are tragic and senseless, they really have nothing to do with shootings that happen in public places motivated by a desire to just kill.

    “School shooting” is also a heavily loaded and misused term, sometimes involving negligent discharges and gang activity.  Interestingly enough, NBC News of all places has a surprisingly accurate tracker of school shootings:

    Moving along with active shooter incidents in general, the FBI has released a comprehensive report on every active shooter incident in a 20-year time period from 2000-2019, available here:

    Some highlights:

    -333 active shooter incidents in this 20-year period, a rounded average of 17 incidents per year.

    -2,851 killed or injured in this 20-year period, a rounded average of 143 killed or injured a year.  For comparison, around 440 people are killed or injured by lightning every year (

    -44 total “real” K-12 school shootings in this 20-year period, an average of 2 to 3 school shootings a year.  There are more than 130,000 K-12 schools in the United States, meaning it would take over 200 years for even one-half of one percent of schools to experience a school shooting at this rate.

    -Handguns accounted for 67% of the weapons used in such active shooter incidents.

    The bottom line is this: Being anywhere near these random public shootings is extremely rare, far rarer than the chances of being involved in a fire, motor vehicle collision, lightning strike, or other type of accident.  Children are not and were never at risk for a school shooting.

    What IS true about these incidents is that they dominate news coverage for days, even weeks at a time, in media outlets hundreds of miles away.  17 shootings a year can be portrayed in such a way to fool the public into believing “they happen all the time”.  When real active shooter incidents are then lumped together with gang shootings, suicides involving guns, etc. and the resulting bad statistics thrown to the public, you have the perfect recipe to knee-jerk legislation aimed at resolving an imaginary problem.

    About fifteen minutes of light research and critical thinking can debunk this nonsense, even less if one is presented with all the relevant information right away as this post does.  Please spread this message and do your part to nullify propaganda.

  • ErikTheRed99

    June 13, 2021 at 10:23 am

    Remember the DEA agent who had a negligent discharge in an elementary school classroom? Some lists count that as a school shooting to further their agenda.


    June 13, 2021 at 10:23 am

    So you use ignorant statemets to launch a point and then nake an ignirant comparison to lightning to also make a point. I assume you don’t get it. One death is too nany. One. Put your guns away. If we could control lightning I’m sure we would divett it away from people. But a kid getting shot dead in his car seat is certainly a price wirth paying for your “freedoms”, isnt it? And if only the damned msm would shut up about ut. Kid shoulda had a gun to defend himself. Damn liberals

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