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  • SBR LPVO… does “daylight bright” really matter?

    Posted by queefy_mcfarthauser on September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    So I want to put an LPVO on my suppressed 9″ 300blk for hunting and home defense. I have a Trijicon Credo 1-4x that seems perfect but I read ALOT of complaints about it not being daylight bright.

    Ignoring the fact that I’ve never had an issue with the brightness, I got to thinking WHY does daylight bright matter so much with LPVOs? If your background is bright enough that you can’t see the illuminated part of your reticle, doesn’t that bright background provide the perfect contrast to be able to easily see the regular black cross hairs / lines?

    I feel like the only time you really need illumination on a scope is with a dark background. We’re not talking about red dots that have no crosshairs and depend solely on illumination.

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  • AdhesivenessFun3130

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    It only matters if your intention is to be able to use the LPVO in place of a dot for room clearing purposes.

  • sirbassist83

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    i have a couple trijicons, all fiber optic/tritium powered, and really love how easy the reticle is to pick up quickly. i could get by without it, but “daylight bright” is definitely an advantage when youre trying to get a shot off as fast as possible.

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  • Tyman989

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    Eyebox > glass clearity > brightness

    Edit… if you wanna get technical…
    Your ability to hold and shoot based on training > Eyebox > Glass Clarity > Mount > weight > true x1 power > reticle > magnification > brightness < dickbutt

  • anthony-wokely

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    I, personally, prefer that just because of how much easier it is to find when not zoomed in. I like being able to shoot it like an EOtech on 1x. My 1-8 Accupower is eotech bright on a clear sunny day, but I think the best one I’ve seen was the razor HD. That thing is legit like shooting through a normal red dot at 1x.

    A big part of that being important is the eye relief/eye box of your optic. If you have to be close/cheek welded to the stock to shoot with a particular scope you probably won’t get much out of it. But if you have good enough eye relief to shoot with your head well back from the eye piece with both eyes open then I think it’s worth it.

  • BlueJay–

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    Its nice to have the retical bright as fuck and then basically use the scope as a red dot by looking “through it” with both eyes open.

    Depending on the reticle and overall brightness that may be harder to do on some scopes vs others.

  • CapitolArmory

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    I’ve never used any of my illuminated reticles, other than once a year I may turn something on to make sure the battery still works. I guess it’s a nice feature in theory, but I think it’s severely overrated.

    The dark background is fairly rare when I’ve shot. If it’s a weird time of day (super early, late, or at night) then I just go thermal or night vision.

  • radar1225S

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    If you’re really using the illumination then yeah I think daylight bright definitely matters. I honestly don’t use mine on my Razor 1-6x much unless I want to be sure to pick it up quick. I come from hunting scope background not red dot, so illumination isn’t a huge necessity for me. It does make a difference I feel in picking up center on target faster.

  • 9breaker8492

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    Daylight bright matters more to me if I’m using a LPVO without an offset or piggybacked rds. If I’m relying on the LPVO for 1x shooting, I want brightness as close to my T2/Comp M5 as I can get.

  • El_Gringo_Mas_Grande

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    Completely depends on the LPVO.

    People will laud the NX8 and ATACR for being daylight bright, but the illumination for them has an “eyebox” too since it’s illuminating an etching on a lens.

    I’ve been using LPVOs for a long time and I think illumination is very overrated. Would rather have it and not need it, but if you’re practicing like you should be you can get your rifle up and on target with your eyes closed.

  • CleverHearts

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    For the Credo, it doesn’t really matter. It’s a SFP scope so the reticle stays the same size. For a FFP scope like a Mk6 (which is daylight bright) it matters a lot more. At 1x the reticle is tiny, which makes it hard to find on some targets. Crank the brightness up and it basically becomes a red dot.

  • MillionFoul

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    No. As long as it’s bright enough to be visible in shadows during the day (and I hear Credos generally are) and the reticle isn’t tiny and hard to find you’re good. Daylight bright is cool, but you’re not gonna get it unless you double or triple the amount of money you’re throwing down for your optic. Also eats batteries worse than an EOtech.

    It’s not a red dot, if in your use you find you need a red dot throw one on there. Seriously, put it in a cool offset mount it’ll look rad.

  • realJaneGoodall

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    if you have a good reticle it’s not immediately important.

    it’s mostly just a cool quality of life thing to have.

    don’t overthink it, if you don’t really need it, then don’t worry about it.

    fudds have been dropping game with non-illuminated scopes for decades

  • The-J-Oven

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    Matters to me.

  • TitleZealousideal664

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    September 23, 2022 at 5:32 pm

    Yes, ffp is shit on low power. Need the bright dot. Then best eyebox, then glass

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